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Novelist Celeste Ng on the great power of small things

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Before Celeste Ng became a bestselling author, she had a side job selling miniatures on eBay; reproducing dollhouse-sized food was her specialty. Even after the publication of “Little Fires Everywhere,” “Everything I Never Told You’, and most recently ‘Our Missing Hearts’, Celeste still makes little things – now as a hobby. She has come to realize the parallels between making small things and writing: both give her the opportunity to see the world up close.

Today, Celeste kicks off our special podcast series, celebrating 20 years of the Modern Love section, with a reading of Betsey MacWhinney’s essay “Bringing a Daughter Back From the Brink With Poems.” She discusses her own deep-rooted relationship with poetry – and the lessons, big and small, that poems can offer parents and children in uncertain times.

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