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Khloe Kardashian RIPS momager Kris Jenner while accusing her of setting up bad business deals and neglecting her as a client: ‘I’m trying to fix the f*ck ups’

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After opening up to about cheating on her father Robert Kardashian, Kris Jenner gets into a heated discussion with Khloe Kardashian on Hulu’s The Kardashians.

The tense exchange comes towards the end of the new episode, after Khloe had hijacked Kris’ ranch outing with granddaughters True and Stormi.

Kris admitted in confession that she was trying to ‘figure out what her next chapter might be,’ and seemingly landed on having Khloe start a new podcast.

‘She’s so funny and so smart and so articulate and she’s so great with people and I thought, wow, you know what, I would love to listen to Khloe’s point-of-view on so many different things,’ Kris says in confession.

When Kris pays Khloe a visit at Khloe’s house, Kris says, ‘I really feel strongly that you should have a podcast,’ as Khloe seems unimpressed, leading to an intense conversation.

Heated: After opening up to about cheating on her father Robert Kardashian , Kris Jenner gets into a heated discussion with Khloe Kardashian on Hulu’s The Kardashians

Figure out: Kris admitted in confession that she was trying to 'figure out what her next chapter might be,' and seemingly landed on having Khloe start a new podcast

Figure out: Kris admitted in confession that she was trying to ‘figure out what her next chapter might be,’ and seemingly landed on having Khloe start a new podcast

Unimpressed: When Kris pays Khloe a visit at Khloe’s house, Kris says, ‘I really feel strongly that you should have a podcast,’ as Khloe seems unimpressed, leading to an intense conversation

Unimpressed: When Kris pays Khloe a visit at Khloe’s house, Kris says, ‘I really feel strongly that you should have a podcast,’ as Khloe seems unimpressed, leading to an intense conversation

‘You know, everybody’s doing it from their house, you could come over, you could go to Kylie’s Cosmetics down the street, and you could record there once a week, whatever it took. I think you would really be a person I would listen to, and you’re my daughter.’

Khloe responds, ‘But, you have to weigh out risk versus reward. Let’s just say I’m talking about Caitlyn and I accidentally say Bruce for a second and then I go Cait.. like, I would know it was an innocent mistake, it wouldn’t be with malice intent, that little thing that would seem so innocent, I would be annihilated for.’

Kris adds in confession, ‘I get Khloe’s point about the Kardashian name, because it does draw a lot of attention, and if she does say the wrong thing, I understand where that fear is. But fear is like fire. It can either heat your home or burn your house down. It can go both ways. I think she’s gotta get over her fear that she holds inside and have the confidence to be able to go out there into the world and share what her special gift is.’

Kris reiterates, ‘You could do so many great things on a podcast,’ as Khloe adds, ‘As I appreciate all of that and I’m sure I’d be good at a lot of things, but I can’t take on other responsibilities like that, like starting something completely new, because I don’t have a team to lean on. Like I don’t have a management team. You are only there until the contract is signed, and then you dissipate until you want to bring me the next contract. Which… that’s your choice. You’re in your 60s, you’ve managed your ass off for all of us, you’ve got us to all where we are. I’m not complaining about that. I’m just pointing it out. I don’t have a middleman to go to, to say I need help here X Y and Z. You have no idea how I don’t sleep, how I can’t do any of the things I should be doing because I’m trying to fix the f**k-ups that have happened.’

Kris admits, ‘I understand that. I look at the glass half-full, I always have, and I’m just really here to say, let’s just look forward and think about the positive.’

Khloe adds, ‘But then if I go ahead and I take on this podcast deal, I’m overwhelmed with work that I’m doing all on my own because I have no team, no support, and so before I take on another project, I need to fix the 20 that are so f***ed up, and I don’t even know how to do that, and you don’t even know how to do that, because if you did it would have been fixed by now, and it’s not. I think one of my frustrations with you is there’s not a lot of follow-through after something is done and this is me talking to you as my manager. When you are on your vacations, when you are in other countries, when you’re at dinners, lunches, you know, you might be on a yacht for two weeks, which you should be, you have an assistant that will say, ‘We can’t do this unless we talk to Kris.’ And then when I get a hold of you hours later, that makes me boil in whatever my issue is.’

Khloe adds in confession, ‘Her and I are very similar in that we like to control things and we like to do everything ourselves, and it’s not a knock on her, but there’s no possible way that she could do everything on her own and have everyone feel that their equally taken care of.’

Khloe tells Kris, ‘When you want to take on multiple clients, you have to fulfill their multiple and different needs. You don’t give enough to each one because you physically can’t.’

House: 'You know, everybody's doing it from their house, you could come over, you could go to Kylie's Cosmetics down the street, and you could record there once a week, whatever it took. I think you would really be a person I would listen to, and you're my daughter'

House: ‘You know, everybody’s doing it from their house, you could come over, you could go to Kylie’s Cosmetics down the street, and you could record there once a week, whatever it took. I think you would really be a person I would listen to, and you’re my daughter’

Risk: Khloe responds, 'But, you have to weigh out risk versus reward. Let's just say I'm talking about Caitlyn and I accidentally say Bruce for a second and then I go Cait.. like, I would know it was an innocent mistake, it wouldn't be with malice intent, that little thing that would seem so innocent, I would be annihilated for'

Risk: Khloe responds, ‘But, you have to weigh out risk versus reward. Let’s just say I’m talking about Caitlyn and I accidentally say Bruce for a second and then I go Cait.. like, I would know it was an innocent mistake, it wouldn’t be with malice intent, that little thing that would seem so innocent, I would be annihilated for’

Half full: Understand: Kris admits, 'I understand that. I look at the glass half-full, I always have, and I'm just really here to say, let's just look forward and think about the positive

Half full: Understand: Kris admits, ‘I understand that. I look at the glass half-full, I always have, and I’m just really here to say, let’s just look forward and think about the positive

Overwhelmed: Khloe adds, 'But then if I go ahead and I take on this podcast deal, I'm overwhelmed with work that I'm doing all on my own because I have no team, no support, and so before I take on another project, I need to fix the 20 that are so f***ed up, and I don't even know how to do that, and you don't even know how to do that, because if you did it would have been fixed by now, and it's not

Overwhelmed: Khloe adds, ‘But then if I go ahead and I take on this podcast deal, I’m overwhelmed with work that I’m doing all on my own because I have no team, no support, and so before I take on another project, I need to fix the 20 that are so f***ed up, and I don’t even know how to do that, and you don’t even know how to do that, because if you did it would have been fixed by now, and it’s not

Kris responds, ‘That’s not a fair statement. I agree that it’s very difficult for me to be in two places at the same time,’ as Khloe says, ‘Right, or six places.’

Kris adds, ‘I understand your frustration. However, we would build a team with a company who said they have a complete production facility, they completely build a team around you.’

Khloe responds, ‘I don’t trust that because I’ve never had a team built in one of the other jobs I’ve ever had since I’ve been working for you.’

Kris adds, ‘Well, you and I disagree,’ as Khloe adds in confession, ‘There’s issues that I have with my manager, not my mom, my manager, and when I try to address those issues, I get a lot of pushback and it’s always like either a guilt trip or things that a mom would do, and those lines get really blurry, they’re very gray.’

Khloe tells Kris, ‘Nor do I have one person at Good American that represents me. Also, from my management side, who can I call besides you that can give me an answer and help me immediately, because I’ve never… I can’t name one person. I never feel like there’s people looking out for me, I have to do it all on my own in every single category and job I have and if I go ahead and take on this podcast deal, I don’t have faith that it’s gonna go the way you are so non-chalant like, ‘It’s gonna be great.’

Kris adds, ‘You’re disappointed in my, you know, performance, and I feel terrible about that. I want to find the thing that makes you happy. That’s my job. You have a really big following and a really big voice and I think you would be somebody that everybody would want to listen to.’

Khloe adds, ‘But it’s not about… I think you’re missing the whole…’ but Kris insists, ‘I’m not, I get what you’re saying, but I think we just look at it differently.’

‘I don’t know one thing I said that was not exactly the way it is,’ Khloe says, as Kris says, ‘I’m not saying it wasn’t. I think your expectations…’ before Kris gets frustrated.

Not fair: Kris responds, 'That's not a fair statement. I agree that it's very difficult for me to be in two places at the same time,' as Khloe says, 'Right, or six places'

Not fair: Kris responds, ‘That’s not a fair statement. I agree that it’s very difficult for me to be in two places at the same time,’ as Khloe says, ‘Right, or six places’

Team: Kris adds, 'I understand your frustration. However, we would build a team with a company who said they have a complete production facility, they completely build a team around you'

Team: Kris adds, ‘I understand your frustration. However, we would build a team with a company who said they have a complete production facility, they completely build a team around you’

Never: Khloe responds, 'I don't trust that because I've never had a team built in one of the other jobs I've ever had since I've been working for you'

Never: Khloe responds, ‘I don’t trust that because I’ve never had a team built in one of the other jobs I’ve ever had since I’ve been working for you’

Issues: Kris adds, 'Well, you and I disagree,' as Khloe adds in confession, 'There's issues that I have with my manager, not my mom, my manager, and when I try to address those issues, I get a lot of pushback and it's always like either a guilt trip or things that a mom would do, and those lines get really blurry, they're very gray'

Issues: Kris adds, ‘Well, you and I disagree,’ as Khloe adds in confession, ‘There’s issues that I have with my manager, not my mom, my manager, and when I try to address those issues, I get a lot of pushback and it’s always like either a guilt trip or things that a mom would do, and those lines get really blurry, they’re very gray’

‘Listen, I just said if you want to do a podcast, we’ll build a team, that’s what I’m getting at,’ Kris says, as Khloe retorts, ‘And what I’m getting at is I’m not going to continue this conversation and I’m not talking to this bulls**t that you keep trying because I’m never f***ing heard, we put a bandaid over a bullet hole, and she likes to patronize me and be like, ‘Oh no everything’s fine we’ll work on it.’ It’s all bullshit. I’m so turned off from all of this.’

Kris insists, ‘You don’t even understand what I’m saying, OK? Because you’re just somewhere else. You’re spiralling.’

Khloe says, ‘It’s almost like I’m trying to take my stance and be like I’m not gonna take on other jobs,’ as Kris sighs and says, ‘OK,’ but Khloe says, ‘No no, you’re not going to OK me.’

Kris adds, ‘OK, I get the point. I’m not going to keep belaboring this whole thing over and over again. I get the point.’

Khloe says, ‘But we need to if you haven’t understood,’ as Kris says, ‘I don’t want to cause more… I don’t want to put salt on a wound.’

‘Right but who cares about my wound?’ Khloe says. Kris adds, ‘I want your wounds to be necessarily taken care of’ as Khloe says, ‘But how are you doing so?’

Kris adds, ‘Calm down, Khloe, you’re just getting upset again and it’s festering into all these other things that… it’s just not healthy for you babe. It’s not healthy.’

Khloe adds, ‘Oh yeah, so let’s just throw a podcast into it,’ as she adds in confession, ‘I don’t know if my mom fully understands everything that’s happening in my life. I don’t know, I don’t have a lot of expectations, I guess.’

A producer asks, ‘Why?’ Khloe answers, ‘Well, without expectations, you don’t get hurt with anything. And I think I’ve had so many expectations for so many years, and they’ve all fallen short, so it’s just easier to just not expect anything, and just be grateful for what you get. I don’t know, maybe it’s like a defense mechanism, I have no idea, but it’s just what serves me better.’

Bandaid: 'Listen, I just said if you want to do a podcast, we'll build a team, that's what I'm getting at,' Kris says, as Khloe retorts, 'And what I'm getting at is I'm not going to continue this conversation and I'm not talking to this bulls**t that you keep trying because I'm never f***ing heard, we put a bandaid over a bullet hole, and she likes to patronize me and be like, 'Oh no everything's fine we'll work on it.' It's all bullshit. I'm so turned off from all of this'

Bandaid: ‘Listen, I just said if you want to do a podcast, we’ll build a team, that’s what I’m getting at,’ Kris says, as Khloe retorts, ‘And what I’m getting at is I’m not going to continue this conversation and I’m not talking to this bulls**t that you keep trying because I’m never f***ing heard, we put a bandaid over a bullet hole, and she likes to patronize me and be like, ‘Oh no everything’s fine we’ll work on it.’ It’s all bullshit. I’m so turned off from all of this’

Spiralling: Kris insists, 'You don't even understand what I'm saying, OK? Because you're just somewhere else. You're spiralling'

Spiralling: Kris insists, ‘You don’t even understand what I’m saying, OK? Because you’re just somewhere else. You’re spiralling’

Stance: Khloe says, 'It's almost like I'm trying to take my stance and be like I'm not gonna take on other jobs,' as Kris sighs and says, 'OK,' but Khloe says, 'No no, you're not going to OK me'

Stance: Khloe says, ‘It’s almost like I’m trying to take my stance and be like I’m not gonna take on other jobs,’ as Kris sighs and says, ‘OK,’ but Khloe says, ‘No no, you’re not going to OK me’

Calm down: Kris adds, 'Calm down, Khloe, you're just getting upset again and it's festering into all these other things that… it's just not healthy for you babe. It's not healthy'

Calm down: Kris adds, ‘Calm down, Khloe, you’re just getting upset again and it’s festering into all these other things that… it’s just not healthy for you babe. It’s not healthy’

Kris tells Khloe, ‘My heart’s in the right place, I just want the best for you. If you don’t want to do a podcast, don’t do a podcast. If this isn’t in your heart, then you don’t want to do it,’ though Khloe doesn’t respond.

Kris says in confession, ‘I don’t like to see Khloe upset. I’m very solution-based, so when I let somebody down or I disappoint anybody or make somebody sad or mad, I wanna fix it, and I want to try to find a way to make Khloe happy.’

Kris tells Khloe, ‘I want you to do something that’s in your heart,’ as Khloe says, ‘I don’t have a lot of things in my heart in general these days.

Kris says, ‘I understand,’ as the episode comes to an end.

The episode begins in Palm Springs, where the family is celebrating Easter weekend, a family tradition for years.

‘We are in Palm Springs, California, Easter Weekend. We come here every year,’ Khloe tells the cameras, as we see throwback snaps of previous family Easter outings.

‘Every kid, every sibling, the Easter Egg hunts, the bunnies, just everything. We get all this quality time with all the kids. We are just Easter Bunnying it up,’ Khloe says to the camera.

Kim arrives and finds Khloe, who says she’s just ‘hanging out,’ while Kim adds in confession, ‘I feel like I’ve been on the road non-stop.’

Solution: Kris says in confession, 'I don't like to see Khloe upset. I'm very solution-based, so when I let somebody down or I disappoint anybody or make somebody sad or mad, I wanna fix it, and I want to try to find a way to make Khloe happy'

Solution: Kris says in confession, ‘I don’t like to see Khloe upset. I’m very solution-based, so when I let somebody down or I disappoint anybody or make somebody sad or mad, I wanna fix it, and I want to try to find a way to make Khloe happy’

Heart: Kris tells Khloe, 'I want you to do something that's in your heart,' as Khloe says, 'I don't have a lot of things in my heart in general these days

Heart: Kris tells Khloe, ‘I want you to do something that’s in your heart,’ as Khloe says, ‘I don’t have a lot of things in my heart in general these days

Palm Springs: 'We are in Palm Springs, California, Easter Weekend. We come here every year,' Khloe tells the cameras, as we see throwback snaps of previous family Easter outings

Palm Springs: ‘We are in Palm Springs, California, Easter Weekend. We come here every year,’ Khloe tells the cameras, as we see throwback snaps of previous family Easter outings

Easter throwbacks: Easter throwback snaps from Palm Springs

Easter throwbacks: Easter throwback snaps from Palm Springs

Non-stop: Kim arrives and finds Khloe, who says she's just 'hanging out,' while Kim adds in confession, 'I feel like I've been on the road non-stop'

Non-stop: Kim arrives and finds Khloe, who says she’s just ‘hanging out,’ while Kim adds in confession, ‘I feel like I’ve been on the road non-stop’

‘I was just in London, Paris and I snuck a trip to Japan in between all of this. We’re just gonna end our Spring Break with even more memories in Palm Springs,’ Kim adds in confession.

Kourtney arrives and says hi to Khloe and another new arrival, Kris Jenner, as Kim says that Saint is playing soccer at the park.

They show Kim and Kourtney in confession, with a producer asking, ‘Where are you guys at now?’

‘Everything’s all good. I mean, we’re here,’ Kim says with a smile, as Kourtney agrees, ‘Yup,’ as a producer asks, ‘How did you guys get to a good place?’

‘Knowing that the goal was like not about who’s right or wrong, just like moving past it and getting to a better place. And then once we were through the edit, I feel like it was like it was…’ Kourtney says, as Kim finishes, ‘like we can breathe.’

‘Nothing really like… we didn’t have a talk. Like nothing really happened. I just think we’re all kinda the same where we don’t want to have a deep talk about it, we just want to move on. Just sweep it under the rug,’ Kim says as she gives Kourtney a hug on camera.

Back in Palm Springs, Kylie Jenner arrives and gives everyone kisses, while Kris tells Penelope that she wants to take her, ‘to a farm and see all different horses and animals.’

Kim adds that North will go, as Kris adds in confession, ‘Life is so crazy right now, but I really want to focus on spending more time with my grandchildren, because it really does make me so happy. I think I get so distracted and so busy with other things that I really want to make it a point to plan some fun activities for the grandkids.’

Trip: 'I was just in London, Paris and I snuck a trip to Japan in between all of this. We're just gonna end our Spring Break with even more memories in Palm Springs,' Kim adds in confession

Trip: ‘I was just in London, Paris and I snuck a trip to Japan in between all of this. We’re just gonna end our Spring Break with even more memories in Palm Springs,’ Kim adds in confession

Where: They show Kim and Kourtney in confession, with a producer asking, 'Where are you guys at now?'

Where: They show Kim and Kourtney in confession, with a producer asking, ‘Where are you guys at now?’

All good: 'Everything's all good. I mean, we're here,' Kim says with a smile, as Kourtney agrees, 'Yup,' as a producer asks, 'How did you guys get to a good place?'

All good: ‘Everything’s all good. I mean, we’re here,’ Kim says with a smile, as Kourtney agrees, ‘Yup,’ as a producer asks, ‘How did you guys get to a good place?’

Fun: Kim adds that North will go, as Kris adds in confession, 'Life is so crazy right now, but I really want to focus on spending more time with my grandchildren, because it really does make me so happy. I think I get so distracted and so busy with other things that I really want to make it a point to plan some fun activities for the grandkids'

Fun: Kim adds that North will go, as Kris adds in confession, ‘Life is so crazy right now, but I really want to focus on spending more time with my grandchildren, because it really does make me so happy. I think I get so distracted and so busy with other things that I really want to make it a point to plan some fun activities for the grandkids’

Kim jokes, ‘Can you ever have a day with the grandkids without a nanny?’ Though Kris insists, ‘Yes.’

Khloe adds in confession, ‘Well, she’s never had all the grandkids, before, at one time, without help. But I know she’s raised all of us, so I know she can do it, but it’s just hard to release control.’

Kourtney turns to Khloe and asks, ‘What’s up with your lot here? We walked by it this morning and what are you doing with that lot?’

‘Listen, I may sell it, to get out of a couple things,’ Khloe tells Kourtney, while explaining in confession that her and Tristan Thompson, ‘bot two lots together in Palm Springs when we were together.’

‘Here we are, many moons later, and we still own these lots together and I definitely think that Tristan won’t give up his end of the lot,’ Khloe says in confession, while telling Kourtney that she doesn’t even want to build.

‘Hopefully time will get the best of him and he’ll sell me the other half,’ Khloe admits in confession.

Kim realizes that she has never told her family something, as Kris jokes it’s that she’s going on The Bachelorette, referencing Kim’s elaborate prank from last season.

‘So I decided I’m gonna do a TV show, Ryan Murphy’s show called American Horror Story,’ Kim announces, as Khloe’s sunglasses fall off of her head, as Khloe and Kourtney say that’s, ‘amazing.’

Never: Never: Khloe adds in confession, 'Well, she's never had all the grandkids, before, at one time, without help. But I know she's raised all of us, so I know she can do it, but it's just hard to release control

Never: Never: Khloe adds in confession, ‘Well, she’s never had all the grandkids, before, at one time, without help. But I know she’s raised all of us, so I know she can do it, but it’s just hard to release control

Decided: TV show: 'So I decided I'm gonna do a TV show, Ryan Murphy's show called American Horror Story,' Kim announces, as Khloe's sunglasses fall off of her head, as Khloe and Kourtney say that's, 'amazing'

Decided: TV show: ‘So I decided I’m gonna do a TV show, Ryan Murphy’s show called American Horror Story,’ Kim announces, as Khloe’s sunglasses fall off of her head, as Khloe and Kourtney say that’s, ‘amazing’

Momager Kris adds, ‘It came about because we were having dinner at my house,’ as Kim adds she wasn’t even going to come but Kris convinced her.

‘Ryan was coming over for dinner with his husband, we started chatting at dinner,’ Kris said, as Kim adds, ‘And then he kept on saying, ‘I really want you to do American Horror Story.’

Kris adds that Murphy ‘wrote a part for her, just for Kim,’ as Kris adds in confession, ‘Listen, what happened to my part, Ryan? Huh?’

Kim adds at the house, ‘And he did the O.J. show, which I thought was so fascinating. Remember that O.J. series?’

Kourtney answers, ‘Yeah, where Ross played dad,’ referring to David Schwimmer – who played Ross on Friends – playing their father, one of O.J. Simpson’s lawyers, Robert Kardashian.

Kim adds she is ‘very nervous, because I’m just like not an actress,’ as Kris insists, ‘You’re gonna be so great.’

‘You know, it’s just fun to try something new. I really just want new energy. I said every year I was gonna try to do something that was a challenge, work-wise. I’m almost done with school, I just finished two more classes. I have like three or four more left. I can knock em out in like 10 months and then just prepare for the bar. That’ll free up half of my day,’ Kim tells her family.

Khloe adds in confession, ‘I just feel like Kim can tell me tomorrow she’s running for Presidency and I’m like, ‘All right, girl, do your thing.’ For Kim it’s just like another day.’

Came about: Momager Kris adds, 'It came about because we were having dinner at my house,' as Kim adds she wasn't even going to come but Kris convinced her

Came about: Momager Kris adds, ‘It came about because we were having dinner at my house,’ as Kim adds she wasn’t even going to come but Kris convinced her

Ross: Kourtney answers, 'Yeah, where Ross played dad,' referring to David Schwimmer - who played Ross on Friends - playing their father, one of O.J. Simpson's lawyers, Robert Kardashian

Ross: Kourtney answers, ‘Yeah, where Ross played dad,’ referring to David Schwimmer – who played Ross on Friends – playing their father, one of O.J. Simpson’s lawyers, Robert Kardashian

Presidency: Khloe adds in confession, 'I just feel like Kim can tell me tomorrow she's running for Presidency and I'm like, 'All right, girl, do your thing.' For Kim it's just like another day'

Presidency: Khloe adds in confession, ‘I just feel like Kim can tell me tomorrow she’s running for Presidency and I’m like, ‘All right, girl, do your thing.’ For Kim it’s just like another day’

Kim adds in confession, ‘I know I’m supposed to slow down, but I can’t because this is like a huge production.’

A producer adds, ‘So not really slowing down?’ Kim responds, ‘No.’

Back at the house, Kim adds, ‘I’m just excited to get out of Calabasas,’ though Kris adds, ‘You’re never in Calabasas. You’re always out of town.’

Khloe adds, ‘Mom thinks you are gone all the time,’ as Kris adds, ‘I think you’re living your life. I just don’t think that you’re there enough to say, ‘I need to get out of Calabasas.’

Later in the day, a bikini-clad Kim tells Kourtney, ‘Oh my God, I had the hardest week with the kids, it was like comical if you think about it.’

Kim adds in a joint confession with Kourtney that Kourtney is, ‘definitely the one I always go to for my mom advice and like I think her and I have like a lot in common when it comes to parenting stuff.’

Kourtney adds, ‘I think we also have older kids so we go through more similar things,’ as Kim insists, ‘No matter what, like she’d drop anything for us to have parenting advice. I don’t care what kind of fight we’re in. She knows the kind of shit that I’d be going through, I can understand the kind of shit she’d be going through, and that’s how our relationship has always been.’

Kim explains to Kourtney, ‘North was throwing a fit, trying to get her in the car is so draining for me after like an hour, hour and a half, that I literally was in the car, and I was like driving to school in the pouring rain and I was like hysterically crying, but Chi was right behind me so she couldn’t see I was crying. So we’re in the car and Chi’s like, ‘Mom, I have to go potty,’ but we’re on that long strip to where there’s nowhere to pull over. I didn’t have a cup. I didn’t have anything.’

Bikini Kim: Later in the day, a bikini-clad Kim tells Kourtney, 'Oh my God, I had the hardest week with the kids, it was like comical if you think about it'

Bikini Kim: Later in the day, a bikini-clad Kim tells Kourtney, ‘Oh my God, I had the hardest week with the kids, it was like comical if you think about it’

Kourtney asks, ‘Couldn’t she just squat on the side of the road?’ Kim answers, ‘It was pouring rain, is she gonna like pee outside in the rain? Like and I’m just like and she’s gonna cry and she’s so clingy and she holds my leg, it just depends on the day.’

Kim adds that, ‘Nothing was good enough. I took Saint on this trip and he was so excited, but then North was furious and she wouldn’t speak to me because she didn’t get an alone trip. And I’m like, ‘You always get alone trips.’

Kourtney adds, ‘But what if you don’t make it so extreme and do like a private dinner with North, or something. Go on a walk, go on a hike, go to tea. Even if you spend like… I’ll do with Reign like where we’re just sitting and like talking and like have like real focused attention.’

Kim added, ‘Yeah, I need to do that,’ while Kourtney adds, ‘It doesn’t have to be a crazy thing, you know.’

Back in their joint confession, Kourtney adds, ‘I think I have a more gentle approach with my kids. I find, with my kids, that coming from a more loving approach works best.’

Kim adds, ‘And I feel that way, but… with a little bit of tough love in there too and a little bit of frazzled… ‘S**t what the f**k is going on? Get the f**k over here’ like energy also. It’s like, ‘Go to bed. I’d be like, ‘It’s 10 o’clock and you’re still up? Go to bed!’ Like you’re driving me crazy, you know, so I definitely think we’re different like in that way. I get frazzled.’

Back in Palm Springs, Kim explains, ‘And then, North, she’ll go to her dad’s, she’ll be like, ‘Dad is the best. He has it all figured out. He doesn’t have a nanny. He doesn’t have a chef. He doesn’t have security. He lives in an apartment.’ And she’ll start crying, ‘Why don’t you have an apartment? I can’t believe we don’t have an apartment.’

Kourtney admits that her kids say the same sorts of things about her ex Scott Disick’s house as well.

Frazzled: Kim adds, 'And I feel that way, but… with a little bit of tough love in there too and a little bit of frazzled… 'S**t what the f**k is going on? Get the f**k over here' like energy also. It's like, 'Go to bed. I'd be like, 'It's 10 o'clock and you're still up? Go to bed!' Like you're driving me crazy, you know, so I definitely think we're different like in that way. I get frazzled'

Frazzled: Kim adds, ‘And I feel that way, but… with a little bit of tough love in there too and a little bit of frazzled… ‘S**t what the f**k is going on? Get the f**k over here’ like energy also. It’s like, ‘Go to bed. I’d be like, ‘It’s 10 o’clock and you’re still up? Go to bed!’ Like you’re driving me crazy, you know, so I definitely think we’re different like in that way. I get frazzled’

‘They’ll do that at Scott’s too, like, ‘Dad has the best house. Your house sucks. He has the best house, it’s not super-big, the vibe’s better.’ I feel like everything falls on the parent that’s like more involved,’ Kourtney says.

Kim adds that her kids will say they make their own food, and Kim says, ‘That’s amazing that you make ramen, you know, like great.’

Kourtney adds, ‘I do make pancakes every morning and that has been a game-changer. They love it because we’re sitting at the table and they’re happier.’

Kim adds, ‘Yeah, except one wants a smoothie, one wants this, one wants that,’ as Kourtney retorts, ‘So I say like one of you… they rotate like choosing breakfast.’

Kim adds, ‘But like… oh my God I just need a day,’ as they go back to the joint confession where a producer asks, ‘Which one of you is more like your mom?’

They both agree it’s Kim, as Kim adds, ‘For sure. I mean, she gets worked up. Like when she gets frazzled where she’s just like, ‘Get over here Kimberly,’ as Kourtney adds she has her ‘teeth clenched.’

Kim grabs Kourtney’s arm, mimicking Kris, adding, ‘You know, and you’d be like, ‘OK, get off my arm,’ you know, and I can see… I don’t grab the arm, but boy do I want to. For sure the same energy.’

Kourtney adds, ‘And I used to see it in myself until I did the work.’

Arm: Kim grabs Kourtney's arm, mimicking Kris, adding, 'You know, and you'd be like, 'OK, get off my arm,' you know, and I can see… I don't grab the arm, but boy do I want to. For sure the same energy'

Arm: Kim grabs Kourtney’s arm, mimicking Kris, adding, ‘You know, and you’d be like, ‘OK, get off my arm,’ you know, and I can see… I don’t grab the arm, but boy do I want to. For sure the same energy’

Work: Kourtney adds, ‘And I used to see it in myself until I did the work’

Back in Palm Springs, Kim says, ‘I’m like literally dozing,’ as Kourtney suggests she should take a nap, as Kim says she thinks she will, as Kourtney says she can take it in there if she doesn’t want her kids around.

Later on, Kourtney is sitting by herself when she gets a call from Khloe, who asks if Kourtney’s daughter Penelope wants to come with them, but when she asks Penelope she mentions that Tristan is there with them.

Kourtney asks Penelope if that’s OK and she says, ‘Yeah I’m fine,’ as Kourtney admits, ‘I feel like she gets it from me. I told her like the first day of school, I was like so triggered by him and I don’t know why, and I was like,’ as a producer adds, ‘You know why.’

Kourtney responds, ‘Right, I know why, but I was like, I feel like we all like brush it off and are fine and I was just so triggered and I was like I just can’t do it anymore, like I just can’t.’

Kourtney adds in confession, ‘Tristan has made horrible decisions and choices, you know, with my sister. There’s times when I’m so triggered by him I can’t be around him, and then there’s times where I just let it go because we just want harmony and he’s the father of my niece and nephew.’

Khloe, Tristan and their daughter Dream all arrive, as Tristan mentions it’s his first time here, as Kourtney offers to give him the tour.

‘I’m really proud of myself for where me and Tristan are and how I am able to allow him to be the father he wants to be, but where I am at with Tristan has nothing to do with what I expect my family members to do,’ Khloe adds in confession.

‘If Penelope has her feelings about Tristan, rightfully so, and good for you, girl,’ Khloe adds in confession. ‘I want Penelope to have these feelings and I don’t want to talk her out of them, because I don’t want this behavior to be something I’m validating or justifying. I want her to know that how she’s feeling is the right way to feel. We should not accept someone treating us like this,’ Khloe says in confession.

Nap: Back in Palm Springs, Kim says, 'I'm like literally dozing,' as Kourtney suggests she should take a nap, as Kim says she thinks she will, as Kourtney says she can take it in there if she doesn't want her kids around

Nap: Back in Palm Springs, Kim says, ‘I’m like literally dozing,’ as Kourtney suggests she should take a nap, as Kim says she thinks she will, as Kourtney says she can take it in there if she doesn’t want her kids around

Kourtney: Kourtney adds in confession, 'Tristan has made horrible decisions and choices, you know, with my sister. There's times when I'm so triggered by him I can't be around him, and then there's times where I just let it go because we just want harmony and he's the father of my niece and nephew'

Kourtney: Kourtney adds in confession, ‘Tristan has made horrible decisions and choices, you know, with my sister. There’s times when I’m so triggered by him I can’t be around him, and then there’s times where I just let it go because we just want harmony and he’s the father of my niece and nephew’

Back at Kourtney’s house, Tristan and Khloe are talking and Tristan says, ‘So the question is, do you do the Kylie house where it’s unplugged from the world and I’m done with L.A. and this is it, or do you do more like Kourt does? There’s two ways to look at it.’

Khloe adds, ‘Like, who’s getting the lots?’ but Tristan doesn’t answer. Khloe adds, ‘Or we can split our lots back in two and you could have one and I could have one but then we’re still next to each other.’

‘That’s an excellent point. You might as well just, you know,’ Tristan says with a smile, as Khloe adds, ‘Tristan’s hoping I’m gonna forget,’ as Kourtney adds, ‘They were twice the price.’

‘I never forget. You continue to… you know work on yourself and keep chipping away,’ Tristan says as Khloe adds, ‘I wish I could work on forgetting things, I just can’t anymore.’

Khloe adds in confession, ‘Right now he is convinced that we are going to build this house and I don’t know if he thinks that we’re gonna do this like together as in a couple or if we’re just doing this and we’re gonna have like a co-op and we’re just gonna like share this home that we built together. Yeah, I don’t know where his head is at, but one of us will break, eventually. Either I’ll sell it to him or he’ll sell it to me, so we’ll figure it out.’

Before Tristan leaves, Kourtney tells him, ‘Later I want to hear your plan about Khloe forgetting. I have thoughts on how you could make it.’

Tristan says, ‘I appreciate that. Whenever you’re available,’ before he takes off on the golf cart with Khloe and Dream.

The episode cuts back to Los Angeles, where North is preparing something in the kitchen, as a producer asks, ‘Can your mom cook?’

Khloe: Back at Kourtney's house, Tristan and Khloe are talking and Tristan says, 'So the question is, do you do the Kylie house where it's unplugged from the world and I'm done with L.A. and this is it, or do you do more like Kourt does? There's two ways to look at it'

Khloe: Back at Kourtney’s house, Tristan and Khloe are talking and Tristan says, ‘So the question is, do you do the Kylie house where it’s unplugged from the world and I’m done with L.A. and this is it, or do you do more like Kourt does? There’s two ways to look at it’

‘Heck no,’ North says, as Kim admits in confession, ‘After talking to Kourtney, she really encouraged me to do small things with my kids like one-on-one cooking stuff, whatever the kids want to do, and North loves to cook.’

Kim says North should tell them the movies they watched last night, as North says, ‘We watched Tupac. Everyone thinks I don’t know Tupac, but I do,’ as Kim says, ‘She loves Tupac.’

North adds, ‘I’m making cucumber rolls,’ as she’s seen slicing up a cucumber, adding she’s, ‘ambidextrous, I can do it with both hands.’

Kim walks over and says, ‘Oh wow! You should Facetime Auntie Kendall,’ referring to her infamous cucumber cutting back in Season 2.

‘North is really special and smart and creative and definitely beats to her own drum. Like her personality is really, really silly,’ Kim says in confession.

Back in the kitchen, Kim asks North if they should, ‘call the chef in,’ as North defiantly says, ‘No we’re doing this on our own.’

‘It’s so interesting because her temperament as a child is the same now, you definitely come out your own person. Kourtney always says that North is my lesson on this planet,’ Kim says in confession.

When a producer asks what that means, Kim says, ‘It means that I’m supposed to learn even more patience. She teaches me patience, she has taught me a lot about life.’

Patience: When a producer asks what that means, Kim says, 'It means that I'm supposed to learn even more patience. She teaches me patience, she has taught me a lot about life'

Patience: When a producer asks what that means, Kim says, ‘It means that I’m supposed to learn even more patience. She teaches me patience, she has taught me a lot about life’

Kim tells North that she’s going to a prison soon, but she’s surprised when North just picks up a raw onion and starts eating it raw.

North ask if she wants some, and Kim says, ‘No thanks,’ as North takes another big bite out of the onion, as if she was eating an apple.

‘You’re just gonna eat an onion like an apple. This is what she does, people. She eats veggies like apples,’ Kim says to North.

Kim adds in confession, ‘I love spending this time with North right now, just because I’m about to go to Pelican Bay and visit a prison there, and anytime I can talk to her about what I do and why I do it, it’s really important to me.’

A producer asks North what she thinks about the work her mom does, as North asks, ‘What does she do?’

The producer says, ‘The prison work,’ as Kim adds, ‘You help someone and they pay it forward and then they do the same thing,’ as North says, ‘I think it’s good.’

‘I think it’s really important for my kids, all of them, to see what it’s like to help someone else, and to put someone else first, and there’s no better way than example,’ Kim says in confession.

Kim starts kissing North, but she adds, ‘Oh my Gosh this onion breath is gonna make me cry,’ as North laughs and keeps breathing on her.

Prison work: The producer says, 'The prison work,' as Kim adds, 'You help someone and they pay it forward and then they do the same thing,' as North says, 'I think it's good'

Prison work: The producer says, ‘The prison work,’ as Kim adds, ‘You help someone and they pay it forward and then they do the same thing,’ as North says, ‘I think it’s good’

‘No, it’s so strong, oh my gosh my eyes are literally tearing. How do you not tear?’ Kim asks North, as her oldest child cracks a smile.

The episode transitions to Kris, who shows up to take her granddaughters True and Stormi to a horse ranch.

‘I was thinking of something to do with the kids because school’s out and what better way to you know spend a day than on the ranch,’ Kris tells the camera.

As Kris walks the girls to the elevator, Khloe arrives, adding , ‘My mom is taking True and Stormi alone and I’m going… well I’m following, secretly, because my mom won’t let me go.’

As she’s filming in the parking garage, they all come down as True runs to Khloe and Khloe says she just came to say goodbye.

They both give Khloe a hug as Kris says, ‘OK, popsicles, let’s get in the car,’ as they all get into Kris’ SUV.

Kris says in the vehicle, ‘I think it’s wild that I invited 12 grandchildren and I got two,’ as Khloe follows behind in her car.

Kris gives them some animal cracker snacks as Khloe calls and suggests they play ‘I spy’ on the road.

Follows: Kris says in the vehicle, 'I think it's wild that I invited 12 grandchildren and I got two,' as Khloe follows behind in her car

Follows: Kris says in the vehicle, ‘I think it’s wild that I invited 12 grandchildren and I got two,’ as Khloe follows behind in her car

‘My girlfriend has a farm that I adore and have always wanted to bring my grandkids for a little trip to her petting zoo,’ Kris says in confession.

They get out and meet the ranch manager Miguel, who says the girls can feed cookies to the mini-horses, but when they get in closer Stormi says she doesn’t want to do it.

Instead Miguel gives the cookie to Kris, who feeds it to the mini-horse, adding, ‘See? It tickles,’ as we see Khloe arriving in Santa Barbara.

‘Listen, I know my mom obviously birthed six kids, but it’s been a minute. And I can’t handle the stress and trust me, my mom does not want me to be calling her non-stop, so I’m just gonna go,’ Khloe says in confession.

‘And my mom, God bless her, she’s easily distracted. I just don’t know if there’s a huge horse stampeding through, will she grab my kid? I don’t know, I’m just thinking all these thoughts,’ Khloe admits in confession.

Stormi and Dream snack on some popsicles, while Khloe gets closer to the ranch, as a producer says in confession that she has a ‘history here, like on your first day of Pre-K.’

‘Well, I did take true to Pre-K, so I just stayed. So I didn’t follow anyone. I just stayed on campus,’ Khlole admits.

Back on the ranch, Stormi is put on top one of the mini-horses and both kids seem to be enjoying themselves, which Kris notes in confession.

Khloe: 'Listen, I know my mom obviously birthed six kids, but it's been a minute. And I can't handle the stress and trust me, my mom does not want me to be calling her non-stop, so I'm just gonna go,' Khloe says in confession

Khloe: ‘Listen, I know my mom obviously birthed six kids, but it’s been a minute. And I can’t handle the stress and trust me, my mom does not want me to be calling her non-stop, so I’m just gonna go,’ Khloe says in confession

‘This is great! The kids are doing amazing! It’s really fun,’ Kris says in confession, but when Kris tries to get a photo of True and Stormi, True walks away.

Khloe’s car is seen coming as a confused Kris asks, ‘Wait a minute. Is that your mom?’

Kris asks the producers, ‘Did you guys know Khloe was coming? For real?’ as Kris adds in confession, ‘How sneaky. How sneaky.’

Khloe says, ‘Mom, I couldn’t let you have all the fun without me,’ as Kris asks the cameras, ‘Does she not trust me or something?’

Khloe gets out of the car and True and Stormi both cling to her, as Khloe asks, ‘What did you do to them?’

Back in a dual confession with Khloe, Kris says, ‘You drove over to spy on me. She totally hijacks my date with my grandkids.’

Back at the ranch, Kris introduces Khloe as ‘the life of the party’ to Miguel, while Khloe admits in confession, ‘I have no shame in my game. I am here and I am proud.’

Stormi tells Khloe, ‘She made True look at the animals,’ and as Khloe asks True, ‘She made you do that?’ Kris asks, ‘Who wants to go to the horse barn?’

Proud: Back at the ranch, Kris introduces Khloe as 'the life of the party' to Miguel, while Khloe admits in confession, 'I have no shame in my game. I am here and I am proud'

Proud: Back at the ranch, Kris introduces Khloe as ‘the life of the party’ to Miguel, while Khloe admits in confession, ‘I have no shame in my game. I am here and I am proud’

Both Stormi and True say no and say they want to stay with Khloe, as Kris says in confession, ‘Five minutes ago, they didn’t even know she existed. All they cared about were the donkey and the ponies and the pigs and the goats. They didn’t care about where mom was.’

They all go to the horse stables as Kris continues in confession, ‘But if Khloe comes riding in, can’t handle a little competition.

They walk up to the horse barn with Dream getting a piggyback ride on Khloe’s back, and when Stormi says she doesn’t like walking, Kris asks if she wants her to carry her.

Khloe says she can’t carry her because she has a bad hip but Kris says it’s titanium now, but Khloe swoops in and picks up Dream and walks away.

‘Just one day, that’s all I ask for,’ Kris says in solo confession, while Khloe says in a dual confession with Kris, ‘I’m not sorry that I came. I’m very happy I did, and I think the kids are too,’ as Kris only says, ‘Oh my God.’

Kris adds in confession, ‘First of all, did you forget that I have raised six kids and I have a little bit of experience taking people to a petting zoo?’

Khloe responds, ‘Yeah, 40 years ago. Things have changed in 40 years,’ as Kris says, ‘Not a farm,’ but Khloe says, ‘Mom, you don’t know how to put them in the car seat, like things have changed.

Kris adds, ‘They didn’t even have car seats when I had kids,’ as Khloe admits, ‘That’s what’s so scary.’

Scary: Kris adds, 'They didn't even have car seats when I had kids,' as Khloe admits, 'That's what's so scary'

Scary: Kris adds, ‘They didn’t even have car seats when I had kids,’ as Khloe admits, ‘That’s what’s so scary’

Khloe rides a horse while both Stormi and True run in a field, before True asks Khloe to, ‘run the horse,’ but the horse isn’t exactly cooperating.

After some more coaxing, the horse Hunter takes off in a full trot, as Kris mentions in confession, ‘Khloe looks so happy on that horse, and actually I think it’s an extra blessing that she’s here today. Days like this are delicious.’

Kris adds, ‘I have had the best time because I got to take my granddaughters on an adventure,’ while Khloe says, ‘And I snuck along.’

Kris adds, ‘And this one surprised me, oh boy. She’s like my bonus kid today,’ as Khloe says, ‘But I’m really your kid.’

‘I know, but like the bonus of having one of you with me, like an extra bonus, like a little surprise,’ Kris clarifies.

The episode cuts to Crescent City, California, where Kim and Malika Haqq just landed on Kim’s private plane.

‘Malika always asks me about the work that I do and she’s a really empathetic person and I think that she would have a lot to say and has a great platform and I’m just grateful that a new group of people gets to hear and be inspired.

Plane: Kris adds, 'They didn't even have car seats when I had kids,' as Khloe admits, 'That's what's so scary'

Plane: Kris adds, ‘They didn’t even have car seats when I had kids,’ as Khloe admits, ‘That’s what’s so scary’

Confession: 'Malika always asks me about the work that I do and she's a really empathetic person and I think that she would have a lot to say and has a great platform and I'm just grateful that a new group of people gets to hear and be inspired

Confession: ‘Malika always asks me about the work that I do and she’s a really empathetic person and I think that she would have a lot to say and has a great platform and I’m just grateful that a new group of people gets to hear and be inspired

On the ride over, Malika says, ‘Is it normal that I’m a little nervous?’ Kim says, ‘There’s nothing to be nervous over. If it’s like a safety issue, like when I first went into like San Quentin, they gave me like a full breakdown, like you’re so safe, you’re so protected. They don’t get people to like come and visit all the time, they’re just grateful to have people to talk to. We’re going to meet with people who were incarcerated, maybe like lifers and had like life sentences and then like got out after 20 years or 25 years. So you’ll get to see that you might have this like stigma of what people are like or what… they’re just like us. They might have made some like choices we wouldn’t have or like just some really bad circumstances that like things like this, I take and I go, OK this is what I wanna teach our boys.’

Kim reveals in confession that they are going to meet with Scott Budnick, who is, ‘the person that brought me to my first prison and he has an organization called the ARC which is Anti-Recidivism Coalition,’ as we see Scott meet Malika and hug Kim.

‘Scott helps so many people get out and I just learn more and more every year and just open myself up to helping so that’s why I’m here,’ Kim says in confession.

Kim tells Scott that Malika was feeling nervous and scared to go, asking him if that’s a ‘normal feeling people have’ when going to visit a prison for the first time.

‘I think it’s a feeling… I mean, I was scared to go the first time,’ Scott says, as Malika adds, ‘OK good, then I feel normal.’

‘When you see the like hope and joy that like you bring, just by showing up, like no one comes here, definitely not a Kardashian, and so, to be able to see people who care, right, and are here just to be supportive, like it’s a beautiful thing,’ Scott tells them.

Scott adds, ‘I think you’ll come out inspired by the guys you meet then like I think you’ll come out hopeful.’

Kim says in confession, ‘We’re gonna meet with a group of prisoners at Pelican Bay Prison to hear what their experiences are like.’

Nervous: On the ride over, Malika says, 'Is it normal that I'm a little nervous?' Kim says, 'There's nothing to be nervous over

Nervous: On the ride over, Malika says, ‘Is it normal that I’m a little nervous?’ Kim says, ‘There’s nothing to be nervous over

Visit: Kim says in confession, 'We're gonna meet with a group of prisoners at Pelican Bay Prison to hear what their experiences are like'

Visit: Kim says in confession, ‘We’re gonna meet with a group of prisoners at Pelican Bay Prison to hear what their experiences are like’

On the car ride to the prison, Scott tells them, ‘The irony of this place, you’re probably in the most beautiful spot in all of California and like all the healing properties of nature, but no one in the prison gets to experience any of this.’

Kim adds in confession, ‘You know every time Scott calls me and there’s an opportunity or a situation, I definitely want to be a part of it.’

The episode cuts to three hours later – after the visit – because cameras weren’t allowed inside the prison, as Kim, Malika and Scott are on the car ride back.

‘I mean, that’s intense. There’s no way to get away from that,’ Malika says in the car as Kim adds, ‘Yeah, the cages is what really got me.’

‘Our cameras couldn’t come in and see, but it was really powerful. One of the most disconcerting things that I saw was just people inside cages, 12-foot high and probably only like this wide, maybe only like 3 feet wide,’ Kim adds in confession.

‘But I think I wanna be really clear, I believe that if someone does commit a violent crime, there has to be consequences. I think sometimes people feel like anyone who works on reform is just super easy on crime, and that’s not the case. You can just see someone’s rap sheet and just automatically form an opinion on them, but if you understand why they got to the place that let them make those decisions, you would completely change your mind,’ Kim adds in confession.

She adds, ‘Some really deserve second chances and just being open to hearing their story I think is super important.’

Back in the car, Malika adds that, ‘My jaws were so tight because I didn’t want to cry in front of them. Like, I mean, I did end up crying,’ as Scott adds, ‘That’s fine, by the way, because it gives them permission to cry also.’

Kim adds in the car, ‘Just the cages killed me. The cages just felt like animals,’ as Scott adds, ‘Malika, when there was crying in the cage and you put your finger up and you guys like touched fingers in the cage… that was… woo…’ as he continues processing the moment.

Opportunity: Kim adds in confession, 'You know every time Scott calls me and there's an opportunity or a situation, I definitely want to be a part of it'

Opportunity: Kim adds in confession, ‘You know every time Scott calls me and there’s an opportunity or a situation, I definitely want to be a part of it’

They head to a local restaurant, as Kim explains in confession, ‘So now we’re going to have lunch with some of the guys from ARC and they’ve all been lifers that have gotten second chances and gotten out and now they work at ARC and even some of the guys have been in Pelican Bay. When you can hear what other people have been through and they can be open and share their stories and then talk about how they never gave up, it’s really inspiring.’

One of the men say that, ‘All of us were incarcerated in the same institution,’ while another says that, ‘on average, everybody spent at least 20 years of incarceration.

They all go around the table and reveal how long their original sentence was, and how much time they actually served, with many receiving life sentences and ultimately served much less.

One of them says, ‘I don’t know how many of you are in therapy’ – as the man next to him raises his hand – as the other continues – ‘I’m proud to admit that my therapist has been a godsend in terms of my healing because like on one hand we’re told we have to be tough because we survived all of this crazy s**t, but like nah man, the world expanding in front of our eyes from these tiny little cages to this great big world is huge.’

Kim says, ‘I always like to ask this because I’m so curious. What was your first meal when you guys got out?’

One man says, ‘In N Out’ while another says, ‘For years I sat in prison and wanted a big old New York steak, I got out that was the first thing I went to do, to get a big old steak.’

Another man says, ‘My jaw was hurting the next day, because we weren’t used to eating meat.’

Kim adds, ‘I’ve been to prisons before. I’ve experienced this, Malika hasn’t, so this was her first time. The number one thing that I’m hearing that is the problem is not being fixed. Like everyone gets stuck in a cycle of how they grew up, so it’s just like, how do you get people to really make those changes so that they don’t have that like cyclical problem of this same problems growing up with the gangs or growing up with the parents that aren’t there. Like I don’t have the answers.’

Cage: Kim adds in the car, 'Just the cages killed me. The cages just felt like animals,' as Scott adds, 'Malika, when there was crying in the cage and you put your finger up and you guys like touched fingers in the cage… that was… woo…' as he continues processing the moment

Cage: Kim adds in the car, ‘Just the cages killed me. The cages just felt like animals,’ as Scott adds, ‘Malika, when there was crying in the cage and you put your finger up and you guys like touched fingers in the cage… that was… woo…’ as he continues processing the moment

Another man adds, ‘Right now, what we’re doing is on the opposite end of the pipeline. People are already getting into prisons, and we’re trying to find a way to get them out and not return. We need to start at the beginning of that pipeline, to say, how can we stop the flow of them ever getting in to begin with, and what comes with that is healthier families, healthier communities. That is how you stop the trans-generational mass incarceration.’

Another man adds, ‘My last year incarcerated they spent over $100,000 a year to keep me in that cage. How much therapy could you provide in a grade school for a youth to help stop them from going to prison?’

Kim says in confession, ‘I just really believe in redemption, I believe in rehabilitation, like who in their life has been perfect and hasn’t made bad decisions?’

Another man asks Kim, ‘What has been the driving point for you to want to be doing the work that you’ve been doing?’

Kim answers, ‘I think I just saw something on Twitter, like a little video someone had made on a girl’s case. She was someone who answered a phone and was like a phone mule, and I was like, ‘How does this happen? How does that make sense?’ It just like opened up my heart. I just really connected to that.’

Kim adds in confession, ‘Once I realized the influence that I have, and that people were listening, I just couldn’t stop and I wanted to get more and more involved.’

They show flashback footage of Kim and her daughter North meeting with Alice Johnson, whose life sentence was commuted by President Donald Trump in 2018, a week after Kardashian met with Trump to discuss prison reform.

Alice tells North, ‘Your mother is literally in history books now, as a person who championed my case and humanized it.’

Meal: Kim says, 'I always like to ask this because I'm so curious. What was your first meal when you guys got out?'

Meal: Kim says, ‘I always like to ask this because I’m so curious. What was your first meal when you guys got out?’

Kim said, ‘I was able to help you and then I learned so much along the way and I was like I can’t stop here, there’s so much more I have to do, there’s so many more Alice’s out there, like we have to help. You gave me like purpose,’ as Alice adds, ‘You gave me freedom.’

Back at lunch, Kim explains, ‘And then the President signed the First Step Act, which let out 30,000 people, and my attorneys, they wrote that bill, so it was like a ripple effect and it kept going and then you’re just like wait how can I do more.’

Kim adds in confession, ‘I’ve been working on prison reform work for about five years now, and as time has gone on and as I’ve helped more people, my empathy has grown more and more and I have a lot more compassion, you know, than I did a year ago or that I did 10 years ago. If people have really showed that they can change, why wouldn’t we give people a second chance?’

One of the men thanks Kim, ‘for really putting your heart into making this system better. It means a lot to the men inside, so thank you so much.’

Kim says they all have to take a selfie, and they take one, as Scott asks, ‘What was it like seeing someone with your face tattooed on their body in prison?’ as the men all laugh.

‘I was honored. I was honored. It was cool,’ Kim says as they all share a laugh.

The preview for next week’s episode shows Kris telling her friends that Khloe is mad at her, ‘because I haven’t been paying enough attention to her. She thinks I can be at four places at the same time.’

Khloe says in confession, ‘Things haven’t been resolved with me and my mom. We definitely need to talk things out.

Kris’ ‘solution’ is a Proto hologram setup, that is waiting for Khloe when she comes home, which kind of freaks Khloe out.

Kim says that Chris Appleton is her ‘hair husband’ and she heads to Las Vegas to officiate his wedding, but she was ‘rushing’ and forgot to invite Khloe, as Khloe adds in confession, ‘What really hurt is she went to Usher,’ which was a birthday surprise they had planned for Kim but had to cancel because the plane had to be turned around due to weather.

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